Salsa call 15-Nov-2007

*Attending*
Chris Misra, U. Mass (Incoming chair)
Mark Poepping, CMU (Outgoing chair)
Ken Klingenstein, Internet2
Chas DiFatta, CMU
Rodney Petersen, Educause
Deke Kassabian, U. Penn
Joe St. Sauver, Internet2/U. Oregon
Renee Frost, Internet2
Jack Suess, UMBC
Steve Olshansky, Internet2 (scribe)

[AI] {Ken} will talk with Joe and RLBob and discuss whether the Higher-Ed Email Admin list would be a good venue in which to pursue DKIM.
[AI] {All} contact Doug Pearson with suggestions for the JT agenda...

*Discussion*
- Salsa Chair transition
Chris Misra will be assuming the role of chair, as of this call. Our deep thanks to Mark for his distinguished service in this role.

- CAMP: Bridging Security and Identity Management
February 13-15, Tempe, AZ
http://www.educause.edu/camp081

The program committee has been hard at work, and the program is shaping up well. The agenda and speakers are being finalized and will be online as soon as confirmed. There are already 20 signed up, even before the program is available, which is a good sign that this is a topic of interest in the community.

There will be 2 half-day pre-conference seminars covering IdM and Security, intended as a preliminary level-setting opportunity for attendees new to one of these areas.

The Net@EDU meeting happening before this CAMP will feature Doug Maughan from DHS and Guru Parulkar, Clean Slate/Stanford as keynote speakers. Rodney is particularly interested in lining up speakers on DNSSEC, and welcomes suggestions.
http://www.educause.edu/NMM08

- DNSSEC
ISOC is showing interest in DNSSEC and DKIM, perhaps there are some opportunities for us to work together on these topics. ISOC may be willing to support a 1.5 day workshop, small and tightly focused on DKIM. More to come as this develops...

Is the time becoming right for a DKIM pilot? What are the compelling arguments for DKIM v. SPF and Sender ID?

[AI] Ken will talk with Joe and RLBob and discuss whether the Higher-Ed Email Admin list would be a good venue in which to pursue DKIM.

- JT/NetGuru
January 20-25, Honolulu
http://www.hawaii.edu/tip2008/

There will be a 1.5 day NetGuru session again, following the last one at the Feb 2007 JT in Minneapolis. Tom Zeller (Indiana) is leading the planning for this meeting.

Q: Is there a need for a persistent activity in the Campus Networking ("CNN"?) area? There is a queue of issues building that are not Salsa issues per se (but would overlap with some of our members), including but not limited to:
- IPv6
- DKIM (more e-mail admin than networking, thus out of scope for this?)
- network engineering discussion about alternatives to perimeters
- how we utilize and manage dynamic circuits
- NAC for smaller campuses
- Wireless best practices

There seems to be a building critical mass around these topics, which seems to argue for more than the annual NetGuru attention. There are concerns about people having sufficient cycles to be able to devote sufficient time, as always. Perhaps this might offload some of the work of Salsa and allow us to move to monthly calls?

This would require some commitment of resources, which might include release time for a lead(s), flywheel, writer, etc. There is sentiment that this effort should be tied to an outreach path to complete the cycle and get the findings written up and distributed. Finding the right people to participate will be key.

Perhaps Net@EDU might be a good venue, if they were to stretch beyond their traditional policy focus? The Internet2 Campus Expectations Task Force, if reconstituted, might also be an appropriate forum for this kind of outreach.

- AMSAC
The working model for how the 4 councils will interact and function together is not yet clear, they are working that out now. More to come as this proceeds...

- FWNA update
The FWNA meeting at the I2MM was good, focusing on standards and engaging with TNC.

- NetAuth update
still dormant, but there is a lot of interest. The campuses beyond R-1 are very interested, perhaps Effective Practices would be a good venue to pursue this, or regional SIGs.

- CSI2 update
There is still work happening, adjusting to a changing systems and threat environment.

- eDiscovery
This is becoming a hot topic lately. Campuses are growing increasingly concerned about their responses to forthcoming demands, and how this will affect a variety of systems and policies.

- Next Call: 29-Nov