Salsa-CSI2 Conference Call
November 9, 2006

*Attending*
Chris Misra, U. Mass (Chair)
Brian Smith-Sweeney, NYU
Phil Deneault, WPI
Steve Olshansky, Internet2
Renee Frost, Internet2
Lynn Little, Internet2
Dean Woodbeck, Internet2 (scribe)

*Action Items*
[AI] {Chris} Send proposed dates to Renee for CSI2 working group face-to-face in Jan/Feb.
[AI] {Chris} Choose location for CSI2 working group face-to-face in Jan/Feb.
[AI] {Chris}  Send email to Rodney from Educause regarding the REN-ISAC post-conference seminar to be held following the security professionals meeting in April.
[AI] {ALL} Read Phil's document on the wiki.
[AI] {Steve} Post Phil's document to the CSI2 web site.

*Carryover Action Items*
[AI {Chris} Develop proposed agenda for the post-conference REN-ISAC meeting at the security professionals meeting in Denver (April 2007)
[AI] {Doug} Send requirements definitions developed by the Indiana Univ. senior project students to CSI2 list.
[AI] {Doug} Distribute NICT information.
[AI] {Chris and Doug} Connect with NoX GigaPOP folks for Arbor information.
[AI] {Phil} Develop public-quality material on RENOIR for sharing with folks from Japan and others.
[AI] {Chris} Create project plan on using UMass for first data source for shared darknet.

[AI] {Nick} Normalizing data and noise reduction -- put together suggestions of what makes sense to be done at the end-user site and what makes sense to do centrally (to list and to wiki).

*Discussion Items*

*REN-ISAC Workshop*
Discussion continued from the last call about a grant awarded to Internet2 which will support the work of the working group, including related workshops and other events to provide information sharing. The funding must be used by June 30, 2007.

Chris spoke with Ken and others at Internet2 for more details about how the funds will be used. He confirmed that one of the items to be funded will be a half-day workshop for REN-ISAC members following the security professionals conference in April. The REN-ISAC workshop will take place on Thursday afternoon immediately following the security professionals meeting. The CSI2 working group will build the agenda during conference calls. The workshop attendance will be capped at 50 and there may be a nominal registration cost.

Chris asked for feedback and thoughts on the format for the workshop. In general, the working group feels the structure should be different from Educause meetings – perhaps a rough agenda, but very conversation
oriented covering a variety of topics.

With potentially 50 people in attendance, however, the working group decided that a more structured agenda is necessary. Chris suggested that the working group determine desired outcomes for the workshop and build the agenda from those. This may be a good place to provide information on new service offerings, for example.

Building the agenda for the half-day workshop will continue to be on the agenda for these conference calls.

*CSI2 Face-to-Face*
Chris reported that the Internet2 funding would also be appropriate for supporting a face-to-face meeting of CSI2. He proposed a one day or day-and-a-half meeting sometime in January or February, probably somewhere in the northeast, since CSI2 membership is concentrated there. The meeting would be used for discussions on all of the working group's responsibilities and progress, including topics like RENOIR and the shared darknet. CSI2 could also invite a few other people who would have an interest in these topics and/or could be a resource for CSI2. Chris will send a few proposed dates to Renee and will choose a location.

Phil asked about the ultimate goal of the I2 funding. Chris reported that the product would be documents and work product; for example, reporting some sort of progress on RENOIR and progress in the shared darknet. He also mentioned that NSF recently publicized an RFP that may cover some of the work of CSI2. Perhaps Internet2 could form a partnership with one or more universities in submitting a proposal. The deadline is January 8.

*Shared darknet*
Brian has sent information to Indiana U. concerning transferring data, automation, and verification of data integrity. Brian also needs to know the desired format for submitting data. Chris has been sending flow data that has already gone through a flow filter on the university's end. One future plan is to develop a feature set for those interested in submitting data. Formatting and other data requirements should be written into policy.
*RENOIR*

Phil reported not receiving any feedback on the information he has posted to the wiki and which was distributed to the email list. He continues to work on documents that can be publicly released. He has streamlined the current document to make it clearer and about half the length. An action item for the CSI2 group is to read Phil's document. Chris also asked that the document become part of the CSI2 web site, to make it more accessible. Phil has been working on the main library for RENOIR and working on debugging encryption issues. The work is progressing and there should be something to release to the group in a week or two.

The call scheduled  for Thanksgiving Day has been cancelled. The next call is Dec. 7.